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Post a base game in it's own right?
Hey all

I just had this thought the other day.

3 locations seem kind of short doesn't it and it's kind of favouritism isn't it. Even racist when you think about it.

Why just these 3.....?

What about Australia? What about America? What About UK?

I guess Egypt has its history.... but so does Rome.
I guess Chinese have those huts and such and is kind of foreign in a way but so is Japan.
While France I guess is the so called romantic country I reckon Venice beats it anyday. They were too rude to me in France. And I kind of preferred Germany over France lol.

Than it got me thinking knowing EA and their money grabbig ways is this just another base game where they can add different worlds later.

Think about it what are the chances they wont find a way too add more worlds such as Australia - The good old Outback adventure. New York - Nightlife and Theatre. England - Royalty, Castles and Bars. Rome - History and Culture etc.

You have tons of worlds at your disposal.

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Post Re: a base game in it's own right?
It's how it was like in BV, we all got over it though... It's suspected from EA though, everyone knows they just want our money..

Ah well, Egypt will be fun, and China! The Eiffel tower will look pretty too... HOPEFULLY! DX

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I don't find it short or "racist". These places tie together the main types of holidays you go on. France is linked with Rome, Britain, maybe Spain (romantic, historic and whatnot), China is the whole asia-y area (i.e. the continent that is Asia), and egypt is the hot, and exotic Africa/Mediterainian area (though obviously more Africa). So, I think they were merely picking famous locations then adding tastes of everything else.

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The only reason why they chose China and Egypt is because they're rich in history, which thus grants us adventures through tombs, caverns and such, but also staying within reach of civilization, rather than being further away isolated. As in the ruins in England and Scotland and such are mostly located in isolation, and they didn't add or want to add New York for that matter because what kind of 'Adventures' would you have there?

So they mainly chose China and Egypt for the adventure feature and France for a lessened adventure environment.

I think they made good choices. :smile:

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What about Australia? What about America? What About UK?


Forget that UK idea, my country is NOT being in that game... DX

And SimNation is supposed to BE America...

Also, I guess they think America and the UK are similar to Australia so they were like "Forget about that, we need exotic countries" or something...

It's not really racist though. You can't expect every single country to be in a game, it'll lag on. I wouldn't mind a few more, but loads of them?

Also, England isn't just full of castles and royalty, it's pretty much like America, except the history dates back more. There would be no point putting it in. (I should know, I live there...)

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Also, England isn't just full of castles and royalty, it's pretty much like America, except the history dates back more. There would be no point putting it in. (I should know, I live there...)

I'm not alone! :excited:

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But there's a lot of other countries in Asia that have very different cultures than China. :silly:
I personally don't really mind it, since apparently it's done similarly in Bon Voyage (which I don't have). But at first I was somewhat weirded out that they used real life locations in the first place.
I always felt the Sim world was universally it's own - lacking most direct references to our real world. I think they could have just made their own fictional areas based off of popular real world hot spots, that way they could mix cultures and activities from other activities into one town. Like towns based off of Europe, towns based off of East Asia, towns based off of the middle east, etc...

... But in the end, I don't particularly mind what we have now. XD

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I'm another brit. and its kinda annoying how everyone thinks it IS all castles and pubs and cobbled streets. It is as said above, pretty much like america, with history thrown into some bits, like oxford and yorkshire, (btw... Found yorkshire really boring...anyone else or just me?)

I think they've made good choices too! :)
It just 'sums up' a few continents with the countries what give the best gaming value, nothing about racism.

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chaz_g wrote:
I'm another brit. and its kinda annoying how everyone thinks it IS all castles and pubs and cobbled streets. It is as said above, pretty much like america, with history thrown into some bits, like oxford and yorkshire, (btw... Found yorkshire really boring...anyone else or just me?)

I think they've made good choices too! :)
It just 'sums up' a few continents with the countries what give the best gaming value, nothing about racism.


I'm a brit but I live in the US right now, and the longer I live here the less I think America is like the UK (the differences are mostly cultural, but at the very least we drive on the wrong side of the road and it rains a lot more in the UK too!)

3 choices does seem a bit limited (but pretty good for an EP), although now there is the store maybe other loacations will be available to download through that.


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3 locations seem kind of short doesn't it and it's kind of favouritism isn't it. Even racist when you think about it.

Oh God, don't start with all the political crap please >.< Let's not turn this into a race issue, it's just a game.

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3 locations seem kind of short doesn't it and it's kind of favouritism isn't it. Even racist when you think about it.

Oh God, don't start with all the political crap please >.< Let's not turn this into a race issue, it's just a game.

I agree, they can't include EVERY country, race, culture, etc. It has to be narrowed down somehow, that doesn't make it racist.

I doubt they'll build off this EP with more places to visit, unless they're going in a completely new direction with TS3. I think this is the vacation EP and next will be pets, then weather, then whatever, then whatever else, etc. but I don't think they'll continue to build on just one idea.


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I guess Chinese have those huts and such and is kind of foreign in a way but so is Japan.

Think about it what are the chances they wont find a way too add more worlds such as Australia - The good old Outback adventure. New York - Nightlife and Theatre.
I don't really think we need New York, because it'd just be a larger version of Sunset Valleys plaza area. I'd love Australia, but I don't think EA would put it in because "It's not exotic enough." :indifferent:

And as much as I'd love to have Japan(I grew up there :smile2: ), EA would completely ruin it. :yuck: Everybody would be called Kimmisan and Hirosan, eat only sushi and tea, and act pretty much just like normal sims. Then they'd toss in some cherry trees and a Tokyo-ish section, maybe some ninjas, and Boom! It's Japan. :grumpy:

I also don't think it's racist at all to pick those places. Anyway, it sounded to me that EA will be releasing more v'hoods in the store, like Alaska and the Amazon, along with some stuff to go with the v'hoods already in the EP. Probably at least 15 dollars each... o.o

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Jawsh wrote:
Forget that UK idea, my country is NOT being in that game... DX


I agree with that, I don't know how anyone could see the UK as a location for adventure, I haven't left my house in the last six weeks except for going to the pub or to a freezing cold beach.

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I reckon making the UK into an adventure location could work.
They could just focus on London, maybe it could be set in the past or something.
You could have opportunities like 'rescue Queen Victorias Jewels'. HAHA


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I never once meant to rag out the UK. Sorry if you saw it like that.

My point was mainly that they could always add more worlds and that this could be the fuutre of expansion packs.

Instead of giving us new ideas they could go with adding on from this.

To be honest i was born british. I was born in the UK. But back my father was an Australian, My mum was british and because I was only a kid well I couldn't stay there... 20 years later I finally got to go to the UK again and I fell in love with it.
I loved the history around it too.

I know there's more to Britain than just Royalty and Pubs. But there's also more to Egypt than tombs and pyramids. There's more to China than just culture and exotic foods.

And in Paris well the french were rude to us most of the time. But that might be good to have some rude sims I guess. But there was more to france than just art museums and such. There were lines too. Places that took up to 4- 5 hours just to get in to.

I know there's more to Australia than just some outback. But it could be an adventure right there.

I only said Royalty with Britain because I wouldn't mind having the royalty clothing or some royalty art or such.

The reason why I brought up New York and Los Angeles was because I was hoping to make it sound like our Nightlife and Fame expansion and that could be their way of adding that.

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JPW wrote:
I never once meant to rag out the UK. Sorry if you saw it like that.


No not at all - its just mostly steriotyped.

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I know there's more to Britain than just Royalty and Pubs. But there's also more to Egypt than tombs and pyramids. There's more to China than just culture and exotic foods.


Touche :smile:

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And in Paris well the french were rude to us most of the time. But that might be good to have some rude sims I guess. But there was more to france than just art museums and such. There were lines too. Places that took up to 4- 5 hours just to get in to.



SNAP! they were rude to us too!

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I know there's more to Britain than just Royalty and Pubs. But there's also more to Egypt than tombs and pyramids. There's more to China than just culture and exotic foods.


True, although because this is an adventure EP and not a mixed-like EP or a nightlife-party-like EP, that's why they're basing it on culture and history due to the adventure aspect of the game.

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JPW wrote:
And in Paris well the french were rude to us most of the time. But that might be good to have some rude sims I guess. But there was more to france than just art museums and such. There were lines too. Places that took up to 4- 5 hours just to get in to.



SNAP! they were rude to us too!


Really? I just got back from a week in Paris and everybody there seemed so nice... It might be because in my country rudeness managed to become an everyday thing, but still... the French were nice.

Moving on topic, I doubt that they would add more locations, at least now. I think they would move on to the next EP and only after tons of EPs are out, they would think of extra stuff to give us for different games, such as other places. I would have liked to see a safari though. Or some seaside place where you could do water-sports. Like the Great Barrier Reef, with snorkeling and the like.


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JPW wrote:
I know there's more to Britain than just Royalty and Pubs. But there's also more to Egypt than tombs and pyramids. There's more to China than just culture and exotic foods.


True, although because this is an adventure EP and not a mixed-like EP or a nightlife-party-like EP, that's why they're basing it on culture and history due to the adventure aspect of the game.


Exactly, Britain, America, Australia, and quite a few other countries probably won't fit that theme. They made a good choice. Britain, America and Australia are more based on everyday life stuff, and including one of those countries will kill the theme.

I think that SimNation is supposed to be one of these 3 countries; or even all of them, just Simifyed. Either way, I don't take TS3's storyline seriously, I think that TS1 and TS2 are still the real storylines, and that Sims 3 is a similar universe.

Egypt and China definitely will handle the theme well, as for France, I think that's the more laid back destination, like Erry says. They probably included France to make us happy that we can at least go on a relaxing holiday, so be happy for that.

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