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Icarus
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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:05 pm Posts: 774 Location: Bowmanstown, Pennsylvania
Age: 18
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Swatme101 wrote: Bah, i never said that!!! She litterally did that, but I am not saying all lesbians do! Why bother even mentioning it, then? It wasn't even relevant to the topic at hand.
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| Mon May 11, 2009 9:16 pm |
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Complicated
Sims Addict
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 9:05 pm Posts: 175 Location: Massachusetts, United States
Name: Bryan
Age: 16
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
I'm bisexual, and I'm open about it. I've dated boys, and I know its controversial, but it isn't something I chose to be.
I know a lot of nonstraights wouldn't say this, but I'd LOVE to be straight and accepted by everyone. It just doesn't work that way, I guess. I am happy to be who I am, but the rude comments get to you after awhile!
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| Mon May 11, 2009 9:19 pm |
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Simsfreakmaniac
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Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:29 am Posts: 483 Location: Trinidad and Tobago
Name: Michelle
Age: 22
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Some people who are against homosexuality usually use the argument that its unnatural and God (whatever religious entity they regard) frowns upon it. With that argument, I think at the end of the day its for God to decide, for God to punish. NOT humans. I did a report on hate crimes for criminology and the level of hatred, the depths people go to, to "punish" homosexuals was for a lack of a better word amazing to discover. Some resorted to trickery, posing to be gay to lure their "prey" in. That level of premeditated actions is astonishing. In Jamaica (and I'm sure other countries too) there is a particular area that gay people can not go to or they will be beaten within an inch of their lives/killed. It's their past-time to "bun all batty boi". I don't think all that's called for. I just think its wrong to take it into your own hands if alternative livestyles disturbs you. As a heterosexual, I accept that people have different preferences, I may not always understand it (transexuals, cross-dressers) but at the end of the day it's their lives to live. To each their own.
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| Tue May 12, 2009 2:08 am |
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Potatoe
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Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:13 pm Posts: 379
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Im straight but i dont see anything wrong with bein gay..Gays were created as a population controll and the bible says to love everyone unconditionaly..People shud really lookl up on there stuff before they start sayin god will send gays to hell..And about racisom everyone gets outraged if a white says nigger but blacks can be sayin to kill all whites and no one even pays atention..A test was done that blacks are the second most racist..Asians first.... I love everyone 
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Justin much?
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Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:14 am Posts: 8870
Age: 19
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Lol potatoe. Yeah hate will never leave. My brother makes me want to punch a wall in sometimes. He uses stereotypes all the time it drives me crazy!!! Everything I do has a gender to it. If I act out of gender, he will let me know, and tell me I'm being gay. He thinks any song that is sung by a girl, should only be listened to by girls, otherwise you are gay apparently. My brother also talked about his friend who punched a guy just because he thought he was gay recently, which I'm pretty sure is a hate crime.
stereotypes and prejudice and discrimination are a part of life though. I hate it when people let xenophobia get to them. It made me sad to know that people committed hate crimes against muslims after 9/11. As if they were all out to kill us. You would think people would learn from the past but they never do.
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tinytinkerbell23
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Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:32 am Posts: 804 Location: In Trouble
Name: Ambriana
Age: 15
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Swatme101 wrote: Draik wrote: There's a lesbian teacher at my school, and the other day she asked someone to do a job with her, he was so freaked out, and when he finished he told the whole school he thought she might rape him. I was like "SHE'S LESBIAN. SHE LIKES WOMAN. NOT HORNY 15 YEAR OLD BOYS." Wow, hes an idiot. We had a lesbian teacher at my old school. She used to look down girls shirts :3 we had a lesbian teacher last year, but she never looked down girls shirts. the science teacher did that.
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| Tue May 12, 2009 2:38 am |
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Potatoe
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Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:13 pm Posts: 379
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
your right hate will never leave.since everybody keeps mixin races & havin babies all the races will be illiminated one day and there will only be one race..but even when that hapends hate will still be there becuz then theyll be fightin about whos lighter & darker & all that (people already do this) so hate will NEVER leave.
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tinytinkerbell23
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Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:32 am Posts: 804 Location: In Trouble
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Potatoe wrote: your right hate will never leave.since everybody keeps mixin races & havin babies all the races will be illiminated one day and there will only be one race..but even when that hapends hate will still be there becuz then theyll be fightin about whos lighter & darker & all that (people already do this) so hate will NEVER leave. true. the lighter & darker is stupid to me, does it really matter
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Complicated
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Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 9:05 pm Posts: 175 Location: Massachusetts, United States
Name: Bryan
Age: 16
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
I really feel like some people just naturally are threatened by homosexuality. I can't really attack them, since I know a lot of people who are like. "Oh, black people scare me!" It's a common feeling .. But that also doesn't give them the right to infringe on others' rights.
If God didn't approve of it, I don't understand why he would have created gays this way.
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Shadowsim
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Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 6:53 pm Posts: 6264 Location: A Muddy River
Age: 15
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
I guess it's similar with pedofiles. I don't know much about this, but I'd asume so. Like, I'm not saying it's ok like being gay, but if you found out someone had issue with that or something (Yeah... I really know nothing more than the definition, so this could be way off) most people would assume they're a mass child raping maniac.
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| Tue May 12, 2009 7:22 pm |
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Icarus
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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:05 pm Posts: 774 Location: Bowmanstown, Pennsylvania
Age: 18
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Shadowsim wrote: I guess it's similar with pedofiles. I don't know much about this, but I'd asume so. Like, I'm not saying it's ok like being gay, but if you found out someone had issue with that or something (Yeah... I really know nothing more than the definition, so this could be way off) most people would assume they're a mass child raping maniac. Wait... what? That doesn't even make any sense. Pedophiles, child rape, and peoples' opinions on them are entirely irrelevant to hate crimes, considering pedophilia is illegal in itself, and being gay is... not. 
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| Tue May 12, 2009 9:12 pm |
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Complicated
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Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 9:05 pm Posts: 175 Location: Massachusetts, United States
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Age: 16
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Shadowsim wrote: I guess it's similar with pedofiles. I don't know much about this, but I'd asume so. Like, I'm not saying it's ok like being gay, but if you found out someone had issue with that or something (Yeah... I really know nothing more than the definition, so this could be way off) most people would assume they're a mass child raping maniac. I really don't see where the comparison to gay hate crimes comes in with pedofiles .. Elaborate?
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Shadowsim
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Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 6:53 pm Posts: 6264 Location: A Muddy River
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
It was just a thought I had...
But you say it's a crime, but surely people can't help it?
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Complicated
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Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 9:05 pm Posts: 175 Location: Massachusetts, United States
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
You choose to hurt little children. And the actions you take with them are by force.
You can't choose if you love the same gender, and most gay couples are willing companions.
There are major differences ..
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tinytinkerbell23
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Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:32 am Posts: 804 Location: In Trouble
Name: Ambriana
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Complicated wrote: You choose to hurt little children. And the actions you take with them are by force.
You can't choose if you love the same gender, and most gay couples are willing companions.
There are major differences .. very true.
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| Tue May 12, 2009 11:23 pm |
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Icarus
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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:05 pm Posts: 774 Location: Bowmanstown, Pennsylvania
Age: 18
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Shadowsim wrote: It was just a thought I had...
But you say it's a crime, but surely people can't help it? The causes for pedophilia are unknown, but if "people can't help it," it's in an entirely different ballpark than homosexuality. Homosexuality isn't a mental disorder or a fetish.
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| Wed May 13, 2009 12:51 am |
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Guy Gadbois
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Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:25 pm Posts: 2983
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Icarus wrote: ...but if "people can't help it," it's in an entirely different ballpark than homosexuality. Are you saying people can choose not to be homosexual?
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Complicated
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Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 9:05 pm Posts: 175 Location: Massachusetts, United States
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Guy Gadbois wrote: Icarus wrote: ...but if "people can't help it," it's in an entirely different ballpark than homosexuality. Are you saying people can choose not to be homosexual? She's saying the opposite.
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| Wed May 13, 2009 1:02 am |
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Icarus
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Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:05 pm Posts: 774 Location: Bowmanstown, Pennsylvania
Age: 18
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Guy Gadbois wrote: Icarus wrote: ...but if "people can't help it," it's in an entirely different ballpark than homosexuality. Are you saying people can choose not to be homosexual? No. What I meant is that being unable to stop yourself from raping children is in an entirely different ballpark than being unable to stop yourself from desiring the same sex. :/
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Guy Gadbois
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Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:25 pm Posts: 2983
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 Re: Gay & lesbian hate crimes.
Icarus wrote: Guy Gadbois wrote: Icarus wrote: ...but if "people can't help it," it's in an entirely different ballpark than homosexuality. Are you saying people can choose not to be homosexual? No. What I meant is that being unable to stop yourself from raping children is in an entirely different ballpark than being unable to stop yourself from desiring the same sex. :/ Ah, a misunderstanding based on what 'it' you were referring to. But in that case, you might want to check about paedophilia being illegal.
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