It is not the game developers responsibility to ensure that you don't fill your consoles hard disc. If your running low on space thats your issue to resolve, remove some uneccessary data or expand your space.

If developers were to consider saves and hard disc consumption as limited many of the greatest games would have been quite watered down.

oh hot dayumm. we'll see, we'll see.

If I get the sims 3 on other consoles it, it would be a weird experience for me lol....mainly because I'm so used to playing it on the computer. I had the Urbz Sims and I was REALLY thrown off on how to operate it LOL!

Maybe 4-5 years down the road, when the prices go down really cheap, I may get one for whatever system I'm most comfortable with lol.

The description actually sounds a bit like Sims 2 on console to me.

I don't remember "Create Sims with unique personalities and control their lives within a living neighbourhood" in The Sims 2 for consoles...

I'm talking gameplay here. They said a lot about Sims 2 on console and it wasn't that great to me. At least there's more to explore in the world in this game.

People, you have to understand that the reason the console games for The Sims 2 were so limited is because of the consoles they were on. The PS2 had next to no power to run a game like The Sims, nor did the Xbox, GameCube or Wii.

The next-gen consoles like the Playstation 3, Xbox 360 are very similar in terms of memory and power to PCs. And I know it hasn't been confirmed yet, but by the looks of the screenshots, the game looks to be a direct port of the PC version with a few new features, so in a way it could be better than the PC version. This is just speculation though. The control system may be a little complicated, however they may support a USB keyboard and mouse to be connected.

The PS2 had 294 MHz with 32MB RAM, and although this was fine for most games, it is why The Sims never worked out on consoles before.

The PS3 has a very powerful cell processor which can handle more than you can imagine, just look at some trailers.

Yes The Sims 3 for PS3, 360 may have been re-designed for run on these consoles, there is no reason why it can't be the same experience you would get on a high-end PC.

The Wii on the other hand, that will have a very limited version, those screenshots are not from the Wii. Think of The Sims 2 Castaway and The Sims 2 Pets for an idea about how the game may look.

We need EA to give us some more information so we can understand what each game is going to offer.

Consoles should be illegal IMO. Beyond their utter suckiness and lack of flexibility and expandability, they lock the consumer into a format, and they are insanely overpriced because the companies take a loss on the console itself and make it up from game licensing.

You don't need a high-end PC to play Sims 3. You can get console-graphics by setting everything to low, on a 5+ year old PC. And a new PC is cheaper than a new console.

So anyway, yeah I hate consoles, I consider them to be redneck computers

The Sims 3 does require a high-end PC to be able to play it at it's full potential. If not, you're playing a laggy, low-res game that constantly crashes, like me.

I have a 4+ year old PC that refuses to play The Sims 3 even though I meet the requirements, my Sister bought a brand new gaming PC that lags the game like nothing I've ever seen.

I don't need a new computer for anything else other than to play The Sims 3, so being able to play it without any problems on my Playstation 3 is a life saver. Also, paying out £40 for the PS3 version is much better than paying £700+ for a new computer.

Consoles are gaming machines and to me, feel far more comfortable than a PC.

Consoles, in my opinion, are a lot more social. You can sit around a console plugged into the TV with your friends and have a really good time. You can do that with a PC, yes, but it feels far less social, and not to mention daunting to those not familiar with PCs. I also feel it's a lot more relaxing playing games on consoles than on the PC. You sit on the bed or couch and just play a game without having to think about your system specs or anything else that the PC might be doing at that time.

Despite what you might think, you do need a relatively good PC to play The Sims 3. A 5 year old system won't cut it. You might manage to get it running on completely low settings, but would it be playable or even enjoyable? Definitely not. You'd be silly to say otherwise. And a new PC cheaper than a new console? Only if you get the basics of the basics, which again, wouldn't be enough to be able to play The Sims 3 and actually enjoy it. The PS3 is the most expensive console on the market right now at £249/$299, but buying a computer for the same price would honestly be silly in my opinion. At least with the £249 PS3, you don't have to worry about the specs, you don't have to worry about viruses or anything else that it may be doing, instead you get to enjoy the games and even watch Blu-ray movies, which are pretty damn good.

We all have opinions, and that's ok, but saying consoles should be illegal is just plain stupid, plain selfish and just proves why I hate PC Elites the most out of all the "fanboy" classes. I just play games to enjoy them, that's it. Why bother with all this childish nonsense?

So which would you rather have?
A game's potential artificially limited by constraints of the platform? Or a game's potential increased many fold by the infinite flexibility and expandability of the platform?

And let's be fair... we all play a laggy, bad looking, game that crashes constantly. It's called The Sims 3 :)



What you've got is most likely a Windows problem. And what your sister has is most likely a laptop. Laptops are not gaming PCs. That's a marketing ploy.



Consoles have horrible input, horrible graphics, take up the TV, and are artifically limited. Electronic gaming arose on the PC for a few very good reasons. Nothing will ever beat it. It's not a subject for discussion, because it's a matter of definition. A PC has infinite potential. A console is limited.



I play games for several hours a day. I can't be asked to constantly sit with my friends. Nor do I buy games to play with friends. People have different interests. That's why you play online games online. Nothing will ever do that better than the PC.



The problem is not the PC platform. The problem is people buying PCs for gaming who don't know what they're looking for, and big brand name companies being dishonest and manipulative.

I've played Sims 3 on many older systems, and it's not a problem.



Well a console without games is not a console. For the average user, a PC is cheaper in the long run.



You're right - you don't have to worry about specs. You do however have to buy a new console every few years, just like a PC. If you do it right, a PC easily outlives a console as well. There are plenty of viruses and bugs floating around anything that can connect to the internet. Consoles constantly need patching and even firmware upgrades, just like PCs... because they are PCs... albeit stripped and scaled down ones. And yeah, nobody EVER watched a movie on a PC right? :P



I don't know what a PC elite is. Nor do I consider myself a "PC fanboy". That would be like being a "Food fanboy" or "Car fanboy." PCs are a tool, a staple, something you can't get around.

And here you are... typing on a computer. You likely use it every day. More often than your console. So now you're already buying a console and a PC... cut out the middleman and spend the extra dough on a better PC.

The post was kinda big so i just quoted a bit.. anyway.. I agree 100% with everything. I wrote out a long post similar to yours a couple hours ago but didn't press the submit button because I didn't want to just barge in.. but you made all the points that I was going to.

PCs are a lot cheaper in the long run especially when you think about the ps3 having $50-60 games.

I built my PC for just around $500 bucks. It has a slightly older graphics card which now goes for around $50 itself and I can still play ts3 with my settings on high without ANY lag. (except in CAS because I have like a gazillion CC pieces but thats me not the PC.)

And just to be silly and childish for a moment.. If you love consoles so much why didn't you make your forum post from one? =P

*hides*

I for one prefer PC's. I've never played any sims game on console. Just because I don't like the game style that goes along with consoles. I'm definitely good with playing all my games on a PC. And not to mention PC's can be used for way more than gaming..
With that being said it doesn't mean that consoles suck and that the people who use them are idiots. That not a fair judgment to make. I realize everyone in this topic has their own opinions but don't forget that you should also respect others. Just because you disagree with the opposing opinion doesn't make you right.
If you like the PC version better then great for you, if you like the console version have a cookie. But don't go attacking each others posts and making this a personal vendetta please. It's tiring having to read through all of the endless quotes and smart arse remarks.

You definitely entitled to you opinion and i respect that, so naturally i wish to state my own.

Own gaming platforms the PC vs. The Console in my opinion is very much equally matched in pros and cons.

Firstly you stated that they lacked flexibility and locked the consumer into a platform, which is true. However i wouldn't consider that all a bad thing. In the consoles 6-10 year life span the hardware will remain the same mostly which does not give it the forever advancement of hardware on the PC, but on the other hand elliminates hardware compatibility issues and allows each player to experience each game in its prime. Basically if a game does not run well on a console it is due to poor development, if a game does not run well on a PC it means your PC sucks.

Another issue you talked about was expense, however in my opinion it is far cheaper to be a console gamer than a PC gamer (although i am both). This may differ for different countries however here in the AU PC and Console games tend to be roughly the same price, sometimes one is $10 or $20 in one direction or the other. But for me its the hardware which i find is the money saver for console gamers, upon release the PS3 was AU$1000 for a 60GB model, now 3 years into its cycle a 120GB model is $5000 and if you wish to upgrade your HDD thats quite inexpensive and is all you would need to change in the consoles life.
However a gaming PC far exeeds the initial price of a console, to get the PC equivelant of a PS3 it would cost well over AU$2000 and verging upon the $5000-$6000 mark to get a completely functional PC. Of course the PC has many more uses as the console however we are just refering to gaming, so even though all the sofware your PC will need will not assist gaming those are required to get a functioning PC.
Furthermore to keep your PC up to date you would need to make modifications ever 2-3 years such as more RAM, new graphics card, larger HDD (also something on consoles), possibly a new motherboard. And possibly one of the most important is when PC gaming switches to BR disc you can get a BR-Rom drive for about the price of a PS3 which has a BR Drive.

Your final point was that you don't need a high end PC to run TS3, however again i find this very much not the case. Yes TS3 is not a system intensive game and does not require anywhere near other recent games, however to get the game running smooth on high settings you will require what is considered a gaming PC and not a general purpose one. Moreso if you wish to play any of the games you could be playing on your console on the PC platform you 'runs TS3 fine on low settings' will not even get the game running. And in no way does any game with graphic settings all the way down equal the same graphic output of a next gen console or even consoles of the previous generation of consoles. The only current playform which would not look better than TS3 on low is the Nintendo DS which is some cases actually would.

To finish up i just want to make the point of stating that i am both a PC and Console gamer as well as occasional Handheld gamer, and yes i do use my PC more than a console however when it comes to gaming i would play around 6-10 hours on the PC and about 8-15 hours on the console during a week.

LMFAO, oh my god.

Internet= 200QRs per month
Laptop= 3,800QRs
Comedy= Priceless

Ah thank you very much, my words exactly.



Please do not be so patronising because it is not a laptop, but an expensive gaming PC and it was very disappointing when The Sims 3 didn't run as it should.

You seem to be missing the point here. I am not saying consoles are better than PCs, you are merely misconstruing the situation. Consoles are gaming machines, the one and only reason they are built. Yes, the next-gen consoles like the PS3/360 boast more features such as internet connectivity, Blu-ray players etc, but PCs can always do better.

However, my main point is (and has been from the start) that people who do not have the advantage of a gaming PC will therefore benefit from The Sims 3 on consoles. (Especially PS3/360) End of.

@Anonymouse

First of all, stop assuming things you don't know. I was typing on a PC, yes, but I could have easily have been using my mobile, or ironically, my PS3. Also, how do you know that Jonny's sister probably bought a laptop? You don't know her. I'm pretty sure Jonny knows what she purchased, and I for one also know that she did indeed purchase a gaming PC. Funnily enough, my PC can play all modern games mostly maxed out yet her PC (so no I don't need to spend more on a PC like you suggested; you don't know me) actually has better specs than mine. It's a well known fact that The Sims 3 actually doesn't work on some newer, higher end computers. So don't assume she bought a laptop instead, and basically suggest Jonny is too stupid to tell otherwise, because you don't know for yourself.

Consoles do have slightly less powerful graphics, granted, but that doesn't mean you should shun them out completely. I know some fantastic looking games out there that were a blast to play, and I know for a fact that I enjoyed them more playing them on the console than I would if they were for the PC. Games like Uncharted are great for relaxing on the couch with friends or family surrounding you since it's like a summer blockbuster. Being huddled around a PC wouldn't have felt as good. And take up the TV? What on Earth are you talking about? Consoles are small devices that sit underneath the TV, similar in size to DVD/Blu-ray players...what's the big deal? If you're suggesting it means you can't watch TV if someone is playing a console, then have more than 1 TV in your house like most people.

And by more social, I didn't mean sit in the living room with your friends 24 hours a day. I just meant that Singstar, Buzz or Mario Kart nights are a lot of fun, and generally speaking you don't get that sort of stuff on PC, nor would I even want to play those sort of games on PC. For me, I prefer strategy or simulation games on PC, and the occasional action or adventure games. And different interests? Yeah, we do, and yeah, that's why we play games online so we can play against others that like the same things as us, but I didn't say that we HAVE to play with our friends in person. I just meant that an evening with friends in the living room, playing a console, is a lot of fun too.

Again, you're insulting people by suggesting that people are too stupid when purchasing PCs. 5 year old systems do generally lack the hardware needed to play The Sims 3 at an enjoyable frame rate. I didn't say it was impossible, I just said it wouldn't be enjoyable. It would stutter all over the place and would look like crap. At least with it being on consoles, more people will get to enjoy the game. And don't say "Oh well buying a console is more expensive". I've spent more money on my PC over the years making sure it can play the newest games. With consoles, you buy 1 and it lasts usually 5 years until the next one comes out. But this generation is different since it's lasting longer. Buying a £159 360 now will last you a good 5 more years, and you get to enjoy the past 4 years worth of games for it. Is that more expensive than buying a decent PC and upgrading it every year? Of course not.

And finally, by PC Elite I meant people like you who completely ignore consoles thinking they're inferior, that people who buy and play them are inferior to yourself. You just believe they're crap and that's it. You don't give them a chance. You don't enjoy the games. You limit yourself to your PC because you think the latest hardware is more important. Well it's not. And again, you don't know me. I was using my PC to type that (and this) message, and yes I am on it more often than my consoles, but only for the Internet, my university work and IM. I do actually have more games for my PC than my PS3 and Wii combined, but just because I do, I'm not going to get rid of all my consoles because that would be silly. Why? Because they have games that I enjoy, that I want to play, and some that I wouldn't even want to play on my PC even if I could.

You can play games on your PC only if that's what you wish, I don't mind that at all, it's your preference. But slamming consoles, ignoring them, believing people are stupid to buy them, and suggesting that they should be illegal is silly.

/rant

After reading both Anonymouse's and Chris_Damon's cases, I have to say Chris' is much more convincing. Consoles are made to play a game on, and therefore could do it better, because it doesn't need to focus on extra applications. But graphics are better on computers? I cannot concur, my old PS2 plays games with better graphics than this average PC (yes PC, not Laptop). It isn't the best, I assure you, but neither's the PS2 compared to it's successors.

What's more, the graphics for the PS3/360 Sims game looks the same as the ones for the PC version. I particularly like how Chris_Damon said that consoles are more social, then you implied he implied that he meant 24/7. xD Plus, you said that because he was presumably writing on a computer, computers are better, then he replied with he could have done the same on a phone. I know I could have, and I'm just 14.

So yeah, consoles are good for playing a wide range of games, and computers are better as tools. (I also completely agree that things like simulations should be on PCs, but I do not want to play just simulations, that's dull.)

kthxbai, ily <33

This month's issue of GamePro has an article about The Sims 3 on consoles, if anyone is subscribed to it, perhaps they can share some info with us?

When we discussed that graphics are better on the Pc compared to the Console we were referring to top of the line. So this is the XBox 360 and PS3 vs. the high end PC. Bascially the reason that the PC wins is because new and more powerful hardware is produced each year, however a consoles hardware remains the same fore its 6-10 year life cycle.

So upon release the console and PC are neck and neck, but as time passes the PCs upgradability provides it with more graphic power.

As a side note, the reason that TS3 console looks the same as TS3 on PC would be because the game is a port, ie. directly transfered to the console. When this happens 9 times out of 10 very little is changed graphics wise. Furthermore on most occassions the games are exactly the same in every way other than control scheme.